All of these people are in our family history on my Dad's side.
Turtle Vail 1770
Between 1799 and 1804, Turtle and Elizabeth Vail baptised five children at St Nicholas Rochester in Kent. Elizabeth was the daughter of James and Amy Knight of Hartlip in Kent. Four more children were baptised at St Margaret's in Rochester from 1807 to 1813.
Turtle was described as a veterinary surgeon by his grandson, so he may have been a farrier.
As nearly 30 years had elapsed, I have assumed that this is the son born in Sussex in 1770 to Turtel Vail and Elizabeth Bedford.
Turtel Vail
Turtel [sic] Vail and Elizabeth Bedford were married at Ferring in Sussex in March 1769. The vicar noted that they were both travellers and had only published banns in the church three several Sundays. Turtel was able to sign his name on the register. The witnesses were John Caplin and James Bougan.Their son Turtle as christened in Ferring in June 1770.
Miriam Knight Neal
Miriam Knight Neal was born in 1800 at Rochester in Kent, England. Her father was a carrier. She was the first of seven children that we know of, and was christened at Mount Ephraim-Lady Huntingdon's, at Tunbridge Wells in Kent. She married Luke Knight Vail in 1824, possibly at St Marylebone in London [from her death certificate].She had eight children that we know of, with two daughters possibly dying in infancy. In 1852, her eldest son Edward migrated to Melbourne with his wife and child. Her eldest daughter Ellen had also married.Miriam, Luke and their four younger sons arrived in Melbourne on Goldfinder in February 1855.Miriam's husband died three days after they arrived in Melbourne. Her youngest was only 11 years old.Miriam died at her son Charles' home in Chapel Street, Prahran in 1873, and was buried at St Kilda cemetery.
Luke Knight Vail 1800
Luke Knight Vail was born in 1800 and baptised at St Nicholas, Rochester in Kent. He became a tailor, a trade which continued in the family. He married Miriam Knight Neal in London in 1824 and they had eight children that we know of, two daughters dying in infancy. It is interesting that they each had the same second name, suggesting that they may have been related. Luke's mother was the daughter of James Knight, a blacksmith in Hartlip, Kent. Miriam's grandfather was James Knight, a blacksmith in Tonbridge, Kent.
They emigrated to Melbourne in late 1854 on Goldfinder with their four younger sons, the eldest son having arrived there with his wife and child in 1852. Their daughter Ellen had married in London in 1852.Luke died of tuberculosis three days after arriving in Melbourne. He may have taken the voyage to relieve his illness although his death certificate says he was only ill for 6 weeks.
Elizabeth Ramsay
Elizabeth Ramsay was born in Glasgow circa 1837, the daughter of a blacksmith, Lucis Ramsay, and Susan Williams. In 1854, as a domestic servant age 17, she left Dublin and embarked on Marion at Liverpool, arriving in Adelaide in December that year. Also on board were Margaret Ramsay, domestic servant age 19, Thomas Ramsay, a carpenter from Fife and his wife Janet age 18. We do not know if they were related, but Margaret may have been her sister.Elizabeth spent two years in South Australia before coming to Melbourne where she lived for a while in a tent on the banks of the Yarra.She married Charles William Vail in 1857 when he was working as a tailor in Collingwood. They had two sons, the second one dying when he was only eleven months old.Elizabeth was widowed in 1888. By this time her son had married and had a growing family. She is listed in 1895 Trades directory as a greengrocer at Glenferry road in Malvern, where the family had their tailoring business.In 1898 Elizabeth remarried. Her second husband William Knight Vail, was also a tailor and possibly a cousin of Charles. His wife had died three years earlier and his three children had also predeceased him. It may have been a marriage of convenience if they were living in the same house. William died three years later and was buried with Elizabeth's family at St Kilda cemetery.When her daughter-in-law died in childbirth in 1899, her son Luke disappeared and Elizabeth raised the children with the help of her eldest granddaughter Elizabeth, who married in 1912. In later years of her life she lived in Caulfield with her other granddaughter Amy who married in 1918.There was no record of the second marriage on her death certificate or tombstone when she died in 1921.
Charles William Vail
Charles William Vail was the second son and fifth child of Luke and Miriam Vail. He was born in London in 1833 and emigrated to Melbourne with his parents and three younger brothers in 1854. He was working as a tailor in Collingwood when he married Elizabeth Ramsay in 1857.Two years later he was listed as a Tailor at Commercial Road Prahran, then in 1865 at York Street in Emerald Hill. His mother was living with him at Chapel Street Prahran when she died in 1873 and when his son Luke married in 1881.They had moved to Glenferrie Road in Malvern by the time he died of epileptic fits and exhaustion in 1888. The family continued to live in this shop until perhaps the end of WW1.
Catherine Jane Sergeant
Catherine Jane Sergeant was born at The Leigh, near Geelong, in 1859. She was the eldest child of William Foster Sergeant, a labourer, and Bridget McGune.She was perhaps working as a servant in Melbourne when she married Luke Knight Vail in 1881.They had eight children, with one son dying in infancy and the last one dying soon her in 1899. Her mother-in-law who lived with them and continued to care for the children wrote on the family portrait - "she died to enable another child to be born" - although the death certificate says that she died of pneumonia and heart failure.
Luke Knight Vail 1858
Luke Knight Vail was born at Chapel Street, Prahran in 1858. A younger brother was born two years later, but died within the year, so Luke grew up as an only child. His father was a tailor who had come from London with his parents and four brothers. His mother had emigrated from Scotland or Ireland.Luke married Catherine Jane Sergeant at his parents home in Chapel Street, according to the rites of the Baptist Church, in 1881. He was a tailor like his father, uncles and grandfather.His father died in 1888 and ten years later his wife died after giving birth to their eighth child. After this Luke apparently left his family in the care of his ageing mother. We do not know if any of the family knew where he went but he died in Bathurst, New South Wales, in 1919. He had been working as a groom at the Sawmills Hotel there and had died of mitral stenosis and chronic nephritis.One of his sons went to New South Wales. Malvern enlisted at Moore Park in Sydney in 1916 and married at Casino in 1917. However we do not know if he was in touch with his father.
Elizabeth Ramsay
Elizabeth Ramsay was born in Glasgow circa 1837, the daughter of a blacksmith, Lucis Ramsay, and Susan Williams. In 1854, as a domestic servant age 17, she left Dublin and embarked on Marion at Liverpool, arriving in Adelaide in December that year. Also on board were Margaret Ramsay, domestic servant age 19, Thomas Ramsay, a carpenter from Fife and his wife Janet age 18. We do not know if they were related, but Margaret may have been her sister.Elizabeth spent two years in South Australia before coming to Melbourne where she lived for a while in a tent on the banks of the Yarra.She married Charles William Vail in 1857 when he was working as a tailor in Collingwood. They had two sons, the second one dying when he was only eleven months old.Elizabeth was widowed in 1888. By this time her son had married and had a growing family. She is listed in 1895 Trades directory as a greengrocer at Glenferry road in Malvern, where the family had their tailoring business.In 1898 Elizabeth remarried. Her second husband William Knight Vail, was also a tailor and possibly a cousin of Charles. His wife had died three years earlier and his three children had also predeceased him. It may have been a marriage of convenience if they were living in the same house. William died three years later and was buried with Elizabeth's family at St Kilda cemetery.When her daughter-in-law died in childbirth in 1899, her son Luke disappeared and Elizabeth raised the children with the help of her eldest granddaughter Elizabeth, who married in 1912. In later years of her life she lived in Caulfield with her other granddaughter Amy who married in 1918.There was no record of the second marriage on her death certificate or tombstone when she died in 1921.
Charles William Vail
Charles William Vail was the second son and fifth child of Luke and Miriam Vail. He was born in London in 1833 and emigrated to Melbourne with his parents and three younger brothers in 1854. He was working as a tailor in Collingwood when he married Elizabeth Ramsay in 1857.Two years later he was listed as a Tailor at Commercial Road Prahran, then in 1865 at York Street in Emerald Hill. His mother was living with him at Chapel Street Prahran when she died in 1873 and when his son Luke married in 1881.They had moved to Glenferrie Road in Malvern by the time he died of epileptic fits and exhaustion in 1888. The family continued to live in this shop until perhaps the end of WW1.
Catherine Jane Sergeant
Catherine Jane Sergeant was born at The Leigh, near Geelong, in 1859. She was the eldest child of William Foster Sergeant, a labourer, and Bridget McGune.She was perhaps working as a servant in Melbourne when she married Luke Knight Vail in 1881.They had eight children, with one son dying in infancy and the last one dying soon her in 1899. Her mother-in-law who lived with them and continued to care for the children wrote on the family portrait - "she died to enable another child to be born" - although the death certificate says that she died of pneumonia and heart failure.
Luke Knight Vail 1858
Luke Knight Vail was born at Chapel Street, Prahran in 1858. A younger brother was born two years later, but died within the year, so Luke grew up as an only child. His father was a tailor who had come from London with his parents and four brothers. His mother had emigrated from Scotland or Ireland.Luke married Catherine Jane Sergeant at his parents home in Chapel Street, according to the rites of the Baptist Church, in 1881. He was a tailor like his father, uncles and grandfather.His father died in 1888 and ten years later his wife died after giving birth to their eighth child. After this Luke apparently left his family in the care of his ageing mother. We do not know if any of the family knew where he went but he died in Bathurst, New South Wales, in 1919. He had been working as a groom at the Sawmills Hotel there and had died of mitral stenosis and chronic nephritis.One of his sons went to New South Wales. Malvern enlisted at Moore Park in Sydney in 1916 and married at Casino in 1917. However we do not know if he was in touch with his father.
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